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Jul 10, 2011, 02:45 AM   #376
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julidar, klo sampe lebih dr 12bln blm campak, mending ambil MMR di 12bln (jadi maju).

kepikwife, sori baru kesini lagi. gue poin2 aja yaa, rada panjang nih bakal
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1. dirunut lagi basicnya isu autis ini kan dari bahan pengawet vaksin yg namanya thimerosal yg katanya mengandung logam berat (mercury ato timbal gitu lupa gw). nah sebenernya ga cuma vaksin MMR doang yg pake pengawet ini.

2. MMR ini jadwalnya pas 15bln (klo udah ambil campak di 9bln), sementara rata2 usia anak mulai terdiagnosa/bisa tegaknya diagnosa autis, minim 18 bulan. jadi keliatannya "abis MMR kok jadi kena autis?".

3. autisme makin kesini makin ketemu penyebab utamanya itu genetis, keturunan. jd kemungkinan di garis keluarga ada yg autis juga. tapi karena jaman dulu ga kenal klo gejalanya merujuk ke autisme, mungkin nenek moyang yg (sebetulnya) autis cm dianggep "aneh" aja.

belakangan asap rokok dan rokok jg masuk ke penyebab autis. pendapat gue sendiri nih, ini jauh lebih masuk akal krn biasanya paparan rokok sifatnya terus menerus, tiap hari, dalam jumlah yg besar pula ketimbang bahan makanan (sumber pengawet, pewarna & masuknya logam berat ke tubuh). wong yg ga ngerokok aja tiap kemana pasti ada aja paparan asap rokok, apalagi yg keluarga/lingkungan dekat/bumil sendiri perokok.

4. anak/orang autis sistem metabolismenya beda, ga/kurang bisa mengolah logam berat. orang non-autis bisa.
karena sebab individual & bawaan ini, jadinya dengan paparan logam berat yg sama, anak autis numpuk logam berat dlm darah & memperparah/memperjelas gejala autisme, sementara anak non-autis bisa memproses logam berat utk dikeluarkan dr tubuh.

5. karena penyebab utama autis adalah keturunan, yg lain2 macem logam berat, pengawet/pewarna makanan, dll yg klo dilogika masuknya ke tubuh/paparannya pun ga terus menerus dlm jumlah banyak, sifatnya lebih ke pemicu. bisa dibilang klo ga ada turunan autis, segala logam berat dll ini ya ga bikin jadi autis.

dari poin 4 & 5, jangan dibalik logam berat penyebab autisme, tapi bakat autisme bikin anak autis makin keliatan ke-autis-annya klo sering/banyak terpapar pemicu autisme.

6. walo masuknya langsung ke darah, apa iya vaksin yg dapetnya cm sekali2 ini bisa langsung dijudge sebagai penyebab autisme ketimbang makanan berpengawet dll yg lebih sering kemakan & asap rokok yg jauh lebih sering kepapar?

7. sejak muncul isu thimerosal ini, 1998, kandungan logam berat di pengawet vaksin mulai dihilangkan. vaksin2 yg sekarang beredar, harusnya udah ga ada logam beratnya lagi, ato setidaknya sudah sangat dikurangi kandungannya.


tambahan bahan bacaan tentang kontroversi MMR,
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buat yg mendalami ttg autisme, please cmiiw klo ada tulisan gue yg melenceng ya
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Jul 13, 2011, 01:56 AM   #377
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mau tanya dong... menurut page 1 kan Varisela (cacar air) diberikan kl anak 5 tahun, ada dampak kl dikasih lebih awal? misalnya 2 tahun gitu?
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Jul 14, 2011, 02:12 PM   #378
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pofelo ga masalah. kan klo jadwal cdc US start dr 12bln.
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Jul 20, 2011, 01:52 AM   #379
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makasih ya... mgkn harus dibuat jarak sama imunisasi lainnya ya soalnya anakku mau imunisasi 18 bulan
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ngga sih, cm dianggap ga terlalu parah dampaknya aja klo dibawah 5th.
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Jul 26, 2011, 12:24 AM   #381
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anak gw pandu kmrn 3 bulan udah suntik DPT Combo yg ke 2 and Polio yg ke 3,,ini gwnya yg salah apa dokternya yg salah ga ngasih tau pasiennya yah???bahaya ngga sih klo di percepat gitu????
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kenapa ngga nanya ke dokternya sebelum di imunisasi? kan bisa ditolak & jalan sesuai jadwal aja.
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Jul 26, 2011, 06:13 PM   #383
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kmrn anakku suntik DPaT booster... agak panas pagi ini tapi gak demam... setelah konsultasi dokter boleh2 aja imunisasi cacar air tapi yg 1x dosis... kayaknya kl yg 2x itu imunisasi buatan eropa/amerika deh... bener gak?
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setau gw tetep sama kok. karena efektifnya 2 dosis. kecuali udah pernah kena sebelumnya klo ga salah.
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Jul 27, 2011, 02:00 AM   #385
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MOm.. numpang tanya dong, dimana ya bisa akses jadwal imunisasi terbaru? Trus yg combo itu maksudnya apa sih? Maap yah, saya newbie nih... Makasih...
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oh ya? tadi pas booking appointment dokter gue tanya sih... katanya emang 1x kl Japanese shot. awalnya gue research jd ttg shot ini
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iana, dah baca page 1?...........................................
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Jul 30, 2011, 05:02 PM   #388
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kiranaaaa thank u banget ya.
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maaf baru mampir ke sini. coba ntar ku kasih liat ke suami. smoga hati nya tergerak
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pada inti nya: autis itu genetis.
si kecil juga udah hampir 3 thn udah lancar smua. smoga ga ada alasan lagi buat menunda. mumpung deket2 juga ada libur lebaran jd ga usah bolos klo mau imunisasi.
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Sep 18, 2011, 11:37 PM   #389
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minta sarannya dong, boleh kan.. mau imunisasi anak skrg umur 27 bln. Nah imunisasi trakhir itu campak 9bln. Banyak bener yg kelewat kan.. Bingung deh jdnya. Maklum anaknya tinggal ama neneknya slama ini. Mau dibawa ke rs, takut disuru ini/itu yg gak dingerti.. Jd blajar dulu deh di sini. Qra2 yg harus diambil apa aja ya? Apa yg blm dirapel, dilewat, ato dimajuin jd yg blm aja?
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lagi bingung nih, anakku udah vaksin MMR (di umur 15 bulan) dan varicella (1 tahun), menurut jadwal IDAI yang 2011 kan MMR ke-2 baru diberikan umur 5 tahun dan varicella cukup 1 kali aja. Nah, tapi temen bilang anaknya umur 4 tahun udah MMR 2 dan varicella 2. Yang bener yang mana ya?
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