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Mar 25, 2008, 08:37 PM   #1
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Products (Not) Tested on Animals

*mods, gue gak tau sebaiknya ditaro di mana, di sini ato di random chat*

akhir2 ini karena gue lagi asik2nya maen lenongan n nyoba2 produk kosmetik, gue notice di beberapa produk, misalnya The Body Shop, Clinique, dan juga MAC nyantumin bahwa mereka gak melakukan animal testing. dan di Make Up Alley, sering muncul komen di produk tertentu yang isinya himbauan untuk stop menggunakan produk itu karena produk itu melakukan animal testing.

gue juga membaca bahwa hewan2 yang dijadiin percobaan sering mengalami kecacatan, misalnya buta, dan sebagainya.

sejujurnya, gue cukup prihatin dan lebih ngenes lagi karena ternyata gue memakai beberapa produk yang diklaim melakukan animal testing. kalo gue, gue berencana untuk tidak menggunakan produk2 itu. untuk yang udah kebeli, gue pake dulu sampe abis soalnya sayang sih.
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gue pengen tanya ama temen2, apa pendapat temen2 soal isu ini?

gue mengangkat isu ini karena isu ini cukup ramai dibicarakan oleh kalangan pengguna kosmetik (yang gue baca dari berbagai sumber, termasuk di internet). dan timbul pro kontra di dalam pembicaraan ini.
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Mar 25, 2008, 09:00 PM   #2
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Re: animal testing product

hmm.. gw agak2 o'on nih soal make up dan produk2.,
misalkan dia nge test produknya di hewan2, brarti yg kena dampak kan si hewan..
klo ga di tes dulu, jadi yg lgsg pake kan manusia, brarti apakah itu produk tdk terjamin amannya ato justru malah bener2 aman krn bisa lgsg di konsumsi tanpa hrs di test?
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Mar 25, 2008, 09:05 PM   #3
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Re: animal testing product

kalo dari yang gue baca di web-nya Clinique, dibilangnya produk ini cuma bisa menyatakan bahwa dia non acnegenic. gak bisa bilang non comedogenic karena mereka gak perform animal testing. dengan kata lain, tes untuk tahu produk ini komedogenik ato nggak adalah lewat animal testing.
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Mar 25, 2008, 09:06 PM   #4
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Re: animal testing product

cankir nama produknya gak perlu di sensor.. sebut aja gpp kok...!
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Mar 25, 2008, 09:07 PM   #5
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Re: Animal Testing Product

ok slesta
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, gue edit ya. thx lho

oh ya, kalo mau liat list company yang gak melakukan animal testing, bisa diliat di
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kalo yang melakukan animal testing, bisa diliat di
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Mar 25, 2008, 09:25 PM   #6
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wah makasi banyal buat link nya jadi bisa tahu further more information
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. Skrg juga uda banyak manufacturers/producers yg against animal testing which is good
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Yg selalu di inget buat against animal testing ya cumen Body Shop aja.

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Mar 25, 2008, 09:38 PM   #7
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Re: Animal Testing Product

imo, animal testing itu ga perlu..
banyak cosmetic company yg ga melakukan animal testing tp produknya aman dipake kok, semestinya prusahaan2 yg do animal testing pun bs melakukan hal yg sama..
kasarnya, "if i can do it, why can't you?"
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Mar 25, 2008, 09:49 PM   #8
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tapi gw agak2 kecewa dengan TBS setelah mereka dibeli oleh perusahaan yang melakukan animal testing..

lalu.. gue pernah denger kalo di Jepang, produk2 yg ga animal testing malah ga laku, karena orang2 sana prefer animal testing untuk ngebuktiin bahwa itu save untuk manusia, kasarnya gini "manusia lebih berharga daripada hewan"..

terus lagi, gue pernah baca ada produk yang ngetesin make up nya ke artificial skin.. jadi mereka bikin suatu kelinci percobaan sendiri, skin yang resembling kulit manusia. dan produk mereka di tes di situ. hal seperti ini yang perlu digalakkan
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Mar 25, 2008, 10:16 PM   #9
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wah bagus tuh yg ngetes pake artificial skin..
apalagi klo skin nya itu mendekati kulit manusia banget.. selain ga perlu jahat ama hewan, juga aman bwat kulit..
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Mar 25, 2008, 10:31 PM   #10
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Re: Animal Testing Product

How about this:

"FINISHED PRODUCTS NOT TESTED ON ANIMALS" (Bath & Body Works).

Berarti waktu masih dibuat alias masih unfinished, dites di binatang dong.. Sama juga itu, mah.
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Mar 25, 2008, 10:50 PM   #11
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Re: Animal Testing Product

Quote:
"FINISHED PRODUCTS NOT TESTED ON ANIMALS" (Bath & Body Works).
bodo banget yang bikin slogannya
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Mar 25, 2008, 11:07 PM   #12
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Tapi Gil, that shows you bahwa para produsen kosmetik itu bisa aja bilang Not Tested on Animals tapi sebenernya yg mrk maksud memang finished productsnya. Selama masih jadi bahan mentah, mrk gak tahu-menahu. Atau tutup mata.

Bath&Body Works sebenernya jujur.

Kenapa gue bilang gitu, karena produsen kosmetik itu kan membeli bahan2 mentah dari company lain. Nah, bahan2 mentah siapa yg jamin tidak dites di binatang?

Misalnya gw beli peptide dr Indo Maret, terus AHA dari Hero, dan glicolic acid dari Pasar Blok A, gw yakin Indo Maret, Hero dan Pasar Blok A pasti melakukan tes pada binatang, termasuk untk mengetes apakah barang mrk bisa digabung bikin alergi atau tidak.

Hanya untuk kasih pandangan ke kelian, bahwa claim not tested on animals doesnt guarantee that the cosmetics company is innocent dan guilt-free.
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Mar 25, 2008, 11:29 PM   #13
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Re: Animal Testing Product

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Hanya untuk kasih pandangan ke kelian, bahwa claim not tested on animals doesnt guarantee that the cosmetics company is innocent dan guilt-free.
like TBS yang decided untuk dibeli sama animal testing company..
bener juga ya deb.. gue nggak pernah mikir kayak gitu, soal bahan2 mentah mereka..
kita sendiri juga sepertinya tutup mata, atau emang ga pernah mau mikirin..
gue dulu pernah bikin report tentang ini, tapi tetep aja, kalo beli kebutuhan body, gue ga liat produsennya siapa, lupa aja gitu..
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tapi deb.. kalo unfinishednya udah animal testing, apa finished productsnya masih perlu di tes juga? bukannya udah berarti aman karena dibuat dari bahan mentah aman?
atau masih ada efek kimianya? kayak sifat bahan mentah yang berubah-ubah setelah dicampur dengan bahan mentah lain?
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Mar 26, 2008, 12:26 AM   #14
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like TBS yang decided untuk dibeli sama animal testing company..
tapi deb.. kalo unfinishednya udah animal testing, apa finished productsnya masih perlu di tes juga? bukannya udah berarti aman karena dibuat dari bahan mentah aman?
atau masih ada efek kimianya? kayak sifat bahan mentah yang berubah-ubah setelah dicampur dengan bahan mentah lain?
TBS dibeli ama siapa, Gil?


Soal finished products apakah masih dites lagi atau tdk, gw rasa iya, untuk membuktikan apakah produk tsb menyebabkan alergi atau tdk, apakah berfungsi sesuai janjinya atau tdk. Dan dari klaim B&BW, kayaknya emang finished products masih dites juga.
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Mar 26, 2008, 12:30 AM   #15
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Loreal dun, loreal bukan yak...
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